nashville where 1,000 people spent six and a half hours inside a church on a saturday afternoon listening to the biblical point of view on marriage, on family, on parenting, on sex. what was striking to me about this conference is for many people in this country, many parents who are anxious about how to discipline their children, what's too much, what's not enough, they turn to what? they turn to science. they turn to studies and therapy, things like this. for a lot of people in this country, particularly evangelical biblical based protestants, they turn to the bible. on this matter the bible is not particularly vague. several times in proverbs it says very clearly if you spare the rod, you hate your children. if you want to discipline your children, you would be aggressive. i think for these people there is comfort in the bible and, of course, what we know in america is sometimes the people that put their faith in the bible come in conflict with people that put their faith in science or, of course, the law.